Thursday, January 27, 2022

Listen, There are Sounds in the Silence!





Author’s Note

 

“When the observable universe was born, there was a shuddering sound of timelessness bursting from the corner of the cosmos until the algorithmic sound of silence took over, revealing how the distinctive sound of the truth unfolds its formidable presence, how the tiny infinities of reality swing between space and time, how the cycle of life and death gives value and meaning to human existence, how noble ideas and creative concepts incarnate and traverse in three-dimensional realms, where beauty and tragedy fuse and transform to become transcendent infinities” 

― Danny Castillones Sillada

 

Reflections

 

There are sounds in the silence if we will just listen.

 

Mother Earth is precious, we need to be aware of the sounds she utters as we continue to ravage her beauty. In each of us resonates the sound of life humming through the DNA strands of each cell of our bodies.

 

Oh, if we would just listen. We would hear the voice of our creator God, pleading with us to love one another, to stop the hate and rancor against each other and every living thing He has created.

 

We were created to be harmonious with every other living thing. When we do this, we are in the presence of the creator and become one with Him. 

 

Oh, help us to understand this before it is too late! Help us to love one another and only then will we be able to understand the true meaning of life…only then will we be integrated into the water of life, the universality of existence.

 

If you will listen closely, Mother Earth, our creator God, will call you back to her loving bosom. We will then go back to the watery truth of the universe, where we will again be nurtured, protected, and truly loved. We will no longer suffer but will instead be a part of God’s overpowering and radiant love.

 

Our spirit will be one with His spirit, existing in the watery universe where angels worship and sings songs of adulation to their creator God. Hallelujah, praise our creator God, who loves us despite our sometimes-loathsome thoughts and actions. Help us our God, for we no not what we do!

 

 

Silent Prayer

 

Creator God, help us listen for you in the silence!

Music


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93wGaGFUnTs

 

Special Lyrics

 

Nahko And Medicine For The People - Love Letters to God

 

{Verse 1}Give, always give what you canEven if your allies draw lines in the sandAnd dig, always dig a little deeperSometimes it’s hard to be my brother’s keeperLove. So you let love inBaby, I am home in the wake of your skin, and it’s crazyHow we wear our ceremonyAlways be open to your path and your journeyYes, she cradles my lonelinessA home that I forage, nestUniversal test, feel the weight of my lovePut your hand on my chestAnd rest, in the cradle of my armsThe battle that we face is the place where our scars come fromAnd to pick up the gunMy love, we are destined to teach these ones to be braveAnd never run awayCourage is birthed from the womb on the first light of dayYeah, the day you were born, you came out perfectNever meant to be tornIn silence, never been so loud in the violenceNever been so proud of a peopleWhen we’re fighting for a changeNot afraid to lose it all despite all the rageWe are animalsAnd we cannot be cagedProvoke us to fightSo we burn a little sage and write poetryWiser than the enemy will ever beThe minorityAnd authorityAre you here to protect or arrest me?I can’t tolerate the hate, and I'm losing sleepCan’t breathe, cause they’re choking out a war in meImmorality{Chorus}Love letters to GodWonder if she reads them or if they get lostIn the stars, the stars, in the starsSo many parts to a heavy heartIf there’s no beginning, then where would you start?Start, start, where would you start?{Verse 2}Human souls, so we carve 'em into story Totem polesBecause we’re always searching for a certain goalA pattern of physics, a roleDon’t believe all you’re toldAnd openOpen up your fistA misconception, you can fight like thisIn praise, with the power of prayerIf God’s on our side, we can take the stairsTo the heavensFlipping through my chapter sevenI live with the snakes in the great deceptionNo court, in this country for menWho steal from their mother on paper with penAnd we’re trippingDown a red dirt roadAnd we’re askingIs this the way we should go?Kissing, soft top feet of my goddessWe walk the earth, baby, yeah we got thisFocus, and it’s redirectedGrateful, and I’m resurrectedStubborn, but I know the wayYou’re the skin of my drumTo your rhythm I will swayTake my handI won’t lead you astrayWe will not go gently into the darkest of daysGrandma’s here, and she says persevereTake a walk in her moccs, taste the trail of tearsAnd our fears, are the same as they ever wereBeers, numb the pain of a holocaustGears, always mobbing in motionMaybe, baby, be an island or an oceanYour arches, how they bend and contract on my conscienceNever slipped through the grip of my thesisAnd my theory is I shine in your presenceA deliverance{Chorus}Love letters to GodWonder if she reads them or if they get lostIn the stars, the stars, in the starsSo many parts to a heavy heartIf there’s no beginning, then where would you start?Start, start, where would you start? 

 

 

Barry

Thursday, October 7, 2021

Mythology or Religion?


Author’s Note

We must have a new mythology, but it must place itself at the service of ideas, it must become a mythology of reason. Mythology must become philosophical, so that the people may become rational, and philosophy must become mythological, so that philosophers may become sensible. If we do not give ideas a form that is aesthetic, i.e., mythological, they will not hold interest in people.

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

Reflections

Let me ask you a question? What do you think of when you here the word mythology? Today, I am going to talk about mythology and religion and the interrelationship between these two terms. I will explore how they might differ and how they might be similar and how these two “philosophies” have affected human thought through the centuries.

The popular meaning of “mythology” is a collection of myths or stories about a specific person, culture, religion, or any group with shared beliefs or simply as stories a person does not believe in. Although in today’s world the word myth may suggest a story that is untrue, in ancient cultures myths gave meaning to life and even today these ancient myths contain kernels of truth, that apply to problems we face.

Although both religion and mythology focus on belief and a way to explain the world they do differ, although the differences at times may be subtle and some of their aspects may overlap. Although mythology and religion are similar because both are concerned with the supernatural, the main difference between the two is mythological stories are considered fiction, whereas religious stories are considered true by those who believe in them. Another important difference between the two is mythology only consists of stories, whereas religion also consists of a set of morals, ethics, and is an established organization.

Silent Prayer

Creator God, thank you for allowing us to discover

the laws governing your creation! Help us to

understand the meaning of life and our part in it!

Music


Persephone https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=jHxUpgLbsWY&list=RDAMVMjHxUpgLbsWY


Barry

Wednesday, September 29, 2021

The Pain of Abandoning One’s Faith!


 

Author’s Note

 

“If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.”  

 

RENÉ DESCARTES 

 

Reflections

 

Let me ask you a question. Have you ever stopped to think how painful it must be for a person to lose his faith? You cannot help but empathize with people who have been agonized with doubt and uncertainty, forcing them to reconsider and often abandon their faith. This is not a new phenomenon but has been around since antiquity. People have struggled with their belief system since the Stone Age when they began using religion to help them understand their daily existence.

 

But before we get into why it is so difficult for a formerly religious person to lose their faith, let’s discuss the term faith and what it means. The word faith can be defined in several ways: complete trust of confidence in someone or something; a strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof; a system of religious belief; a strongly held belief or theory.

 

When people share with others, they are having doubts about their faith, they are often told they need to pray about it and read their Bible so the Holy Spirit can help them understand and help them fight Satan and his demons who are trying to take away their faith.

 

Here is what a seminary professor shared about what she tells her students about doubts her student might encounter when studying the Bible:

 

I tell them I think the Bible is the word of humans about their experiences with God.  Those who can think can then realize that’s perhaps not exactly the same as saying it is the word of God.  


            Most people in today’s world have faith in a religious conviction or faith in another set of deeply held beliefs. A person’s faith defines who they are and influences their goals and motivations. So, what are the reasons for the beliefs one holds? According to some scholars, some of the reasons for religious beliefs include fear of death, a desire for meaning in one’s life, the need for moral structure, the need for community, the need to control others. This faith or system of beliefs is fragile and if attacked can cause a loss of faith, leading to depression, loneliness, and despair.

 

The process of disentangling oneself from religion can be very difficult. The loss of faith during this process of “spiritual transition” or “deconversion” can be extremely traumatic. Because all humans have a need for security the loss of comfort and security provided by a like-minded community can be extremely unsettling.

 

            To get a handle on what it means to lose one’s faith, we must first try to understand why people lose their faith. To do this I will give the perspective of religion, faith, and/or loss of faith from two atheists, a deist, a Jewish scholar, and a Christian fundamentalist.

 

Bart Ehrman is currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He is an American New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the origins and development of early Christianity. He labels himself as an atheistic agnostic or agnostic atheist. In his blog, he shared the following about his loss of faith:

 

Any of this sound familiar? You used to believe Jesus really did walk on water and magically fed thousands of people, but now you’re not so sure. You used to believe the Bible was without error, a perfect book reliable for all of life’s answers, but now you know otherwise. You used to believe that only people who accepted Jesus into their hearts would go to heaven when they die, but now you can’t stomach such a thought. And when you add up all these shifts in beliefs over the pastseveral years, you genuinely wonder “What happened to my faith?” and conclude that maybe, just maybe, you’ve lost it altogether. 

 

Amy Jill-Levine is E. Rhodes and Leona B. Carpenter Professor of New Testament Studies at Vanderbilt University Divinity School, Department of Religious Studies, and Graduate Department of Religion. She is a self-described "Yankee Jewish feminist who teaches in a predominantly Protestant divinity school in the buckle of the Bible Belt." In her book, The Misunderstood Jew – The Church and the Scandal of the Jewish Jesus, Amy-Jill Levine offers this major difference between Judaism and Christianity:

 

For Christians, the claim that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life is obvious: it is proved by Jesus’s resurrection, confirmed by the Bible, and experienced by the soul. For Jews, claims of Jesus’s divine sonship and fulfillment of the messianic prophecies are false. Since we live in a world of cancer and AIDS, war and genocide, earthquakes and hurricanes, the messianic age cannot be here yet. Since there is no messianic age, obviously the messiah has not yet come.

 

Mike Phleban is a prior Pentecostal pastor, who after years of struggle lost his faith and now is an atheist. He gives us the following reason he lost his faith.

 

In the end, the one thing that did it for me was observing, as a pastor, how Christians lead their lives when they think nobody is watching. Because if there was one fundamental promise of Christianity that I kept sticking to after years of disappointment, it was that God is changing people’s lives. I could live with God not giving me my daily bread and not delivering me from evil – after all, it could always be because of his perfect heavenly plan that I am just too limited to comprehend. But the one thing that I thought the Bible is clear about is that he is supposed to change people for the better. Maybe not instantly, maybe not completely (not in this life anyway), but by the power of Holy Spirit people should be transformed into the glory of Christ, becoming better, more compassionate, more moral, more Christ-like. But nothing like that happens – in church, they just learn how to masquerade better. This was the final straw, the ultimate promise of the Bible that turned out to be false too. The whole house of theological fine print finally collapsed.

 

 

In his article, “Dissecting Christianity's Mind-Snaring System,” Stephen Van Eck, a long-time freethinker and Deist writer, offers this:

 

Once sucked into the parallel universe of Christianity, the adherent is too intimidated by the existing framework of threats and rationalizations to attempt escape. Even thinking along alternative lines will induce severe feelings of guilt. And should one run the risk of losing faith by examining its true foundations, he is certain to be chilled by the dictum, in Hebrews 6:4-6, that "It is impossible for those who were once enlightened...if they fall away, to renew them again..." Those who originated a religion based on deception and delusion clearly knew that if the conditioning broke down or wore off, it could not work again. But that's when the true enlightenment occurs.

 

 

            Randy Alcorn In his article, “Losing Your Faith May Be God’s Gift to You,”, Randy Alcorn says this:

 

As I told Chris, there are probably many people who need to lose their faith—because their faith is in the wrong thing. I believe God can use this crisis to topple our idols, including but not limited to the idols of health and wealth, and clear the way for us to embrace genuine trust in Christ.

So, let’s fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. Let’s make Him the object of our faith. He will support us and sustain us and be there for us in a way that no other object of faith can.

 

It would seem, loss of faith is such a struggle because of our innate reason which demands to know and live-in truth. If there is a God, the search for knowledge, for reason and faith, is part of who we are. The truth indeed sets us free!

 

Silent Prayer

 

Creator God, thank you for allowing us to discover

the laws governing your creation! Help us to

understand the meaning of life and our part in it!

 

Music

 


I’m Losing My Religion – Lauren Daigle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIlnCfbaznE

 

LYRICS

 

I've been an actor on a stage
Playing a role I have to play
I'm getting tired to say the same
Living behind a masquerade

No more performing out of fear

I'm trying to keep my conscience clear
It all seems so insincere
I'd trade it all to meet You here

I'm losing my religion
I'm losing my religion

 

Light a match and watch it burn
To Your heart, I will return
No one can love me like You do
No-no-no-no-no
So why would I want a substitute?

 

I'm losing my religion
I'm losing my religion
I'm losing my religion
I'm losing my religion
To find You

I'm losing my religion

In finding something new
'Cause I need something different
And different looks like You

I'm losing my religion

In finding something new
'Cause I need something different
And different looks like You

Oh, I'm losing my religion

I'm losing my religion
I'm losing my religion
I'm losing my religion
To find You

To find You
To find You
To find You
You

 

 

Barry

 

 

 

Saturday, September 25, 2021

The Mystifying World of Paganism!

 



Photo from Google


Author’s Note

 

“The metaphysical insanities of Athanasius, of Loyola, and of Calvin, are, to my understanding, mere lapses into polytheism, differing from paganism only by being more unintelligible.”

 

Thomas Jefferson

 

Reflections

 

All civilizations on our planet have a god, gods, and goddesses, or at least some important, mythical leader who created the universe and offered protection from the unknown forces the people of that civilization faced daily. These beings could be called on for a variety of reasons including help during times of trouble, help for good harvests, support during wars, healing during times of sickness, help to achieve financial prosperity, et cetera.

 

What is paganism? Paganism is defined as a religion other than one of the main world religions, specifically a non-Christian or pre-Christian religion, or a modern religious movement incorporating beliefs or practices from outside the main world religions, especially nature worship.  When historians use the word pagan in the pre-Christian Greco-Roman world, the term refers to a person who believed in any of the polytheistic religions that existed, who was neither a Jew nor Christian. However, in the fourth century CE, the word pagan became a derogative word invented by Christians to disparage polytheistic adversaries. The word was equivalent to calling someone a hillbilly in our culture.

 

At this point it might be interesting to give an approximate timeline of ancient civilizations and their religions, to give you an idea when the religious traditions might have begun. Prior to the Greco-Roman period which began in 900 BCE and 800 BCE respectively, other ancient civilizations existed including Ancient Mesopotamia in 3700 BCE, the Ancient Caral Civilization located in north-central coastal Peru in 3500 BCE, Ancient Egypt in 3150 BCE, Ancient India in 2900 BCE, Ancient China in 1800 BCE, and Ancient Israel in 1850 BCE.

 

            Here is a useful summary about the major aspects of ancient religions outside of ancient Israel and early Christianity taken from Bart Ehrman’s book, The Bible -A Historical and Literary Introduction.

·       They were polytheistic, they worshipped many gods.

·       These gods had many functions: gods of war, gods of weather, gods of health, gods of agriculture, gods of forests, rivers, home, the hearth, et cetera.

·       There could be a chief god.

·       A person need not restrict their worship to one.

·       The people worshipped the gods because life was difficult, and the gods could provide people what they could not provide for themselves.

·       People thought the gods were powerful and deserved to be worshipped. By worshipping the gods, they were granted access to divine power.

·       The gods were worshipped through cultic acts (not some kind of bizarre and secretive practice). This refers to care of the gods by two chief ways, through sacrifices (animals, food, wood, etc.) and by saying prayers.

·       Almost all ancient religions had sacred places such as sanctuaries and temples where sacrifices and special prayers could be made.

 

Although these ancient civilizations were separated by vast distance and time, it is interesting to note they somehow had similar gods, only with different names. If you really think about it the logic is not difficult to understand. People, no matter which civilization they were born into are naturally in awe of things. When they could not understand something occurring around them, they would become scared. They found comfort from these things by creating or inventing gods, who they believed, if worshipped or praised, would protect them. They believed in return for protection, the gods required prayers of adulation and sacrifices.

 

Although many ancient religious traditions lack written texts, cuneiform documents dating back to 2600 BCE do exist from Sumer and Egypt. Cuneiform documents were formed by pressing a reed stylus into soft clay tablets that were later hardened in the sun.

From these sources, these traditions can be thought of as practices created by humans to compel gods or nature to obey human commands. These religious practices were then incorporated into daily life. 

 

The Assyrians recorded religious texts in cuneiform documents in the first millennium BCE. These documents were collected by the Assyrian king Ashurbanipal and included the Creation Epic, the Epic of Gilgamesh, and the earliest account of the Flood. All ancient civilizations have creation myths, explaining how the world was created from chaos.

 

      The Creation Epic is an interesting creation myth that tells the story of the great god Marduk's victory over the forces of chaos and his establishment of order at the creation of the world. This text helped establish a religious context for the Babylonian state and its system of government. The Egyptian creation story describes how the sun god Ra, also called Atum, created his son Shu and daughter Tefnut and they worked together to create order in Nu - the chaos of the universe. They created humans from tears of happiness and then made Yah the moon, Geb the earth, and Nut the sky. Geb and Nut had four children - two gods and two goddesses - who represented the four forces of life. They were:

  • Osiris, god of fertility
  • Isis, the mother goddess
  • Set, god of evil
  • Nephthys, goddess of death.

 

            It is interesting to note the similarities of these creation stories with the account in Genesis of the Hebrew Old Testament.

 

Greek religious practices included the worship of household and local gods, sacrificial rites, and prayers, vows, divination, and omens. Although the polytheistic Greek religion included a multitude of gods, representing a certain facet of the human condition, the most important gods were the twelve Olympian gods, led by Zeus, who resided on Mount Olympus. These gods were given human bodies and characters, both good and bad. In the stories of Greek mythology, these gods directly intervened in human affairs. These stories were first passed on through oral tradition, but later were put in writing by Hesiod in His Theogony and in the poems of Homer, the Iliad and Odyssey.

 

Roman religious practices began with early Roman ancestor worship that evolved into a complex system of household and state gods. A turning point in Roman religion occurred with the deification of Julius Caesar, establishing the practice of emperor worship. Before the rise of Christianity led to the end of paganism, Roman paganism had other rivals such as Zoroastrianism and other various cults from around the Mediterranean world.

 

What was paganism and why did it flourish in the pre-Christian Greco-Roman period? Bart Ehrman describes it well in his book, The Triumph of Christianity, in this way:

 

“Pagan religions were almost entirely about practice, about doing things, about giving the gods their due – not through mental affirmations of who they were or what they had done, but through ritual actions that showed reverence and devotion.”

 

           Most of the rites and practices of Pagan belief systems died out centuries ago.  However, some modern spiritual seekers have recovered those ancient wisdom traditions and now proudly identify as Pagan. Modern paganism is one of America’s fastest growing religions. Modern Paganism encompasses a wide and rich variety of polytheistic religious traditions: Sumerian, Egyptian, Greek, and Roman practices, as well as Wicca (modern witchcraft), Asatru (the worship of Norse gods, goddesses, and land spirits), and Druidism (as Indo-European priesthood).  

 

Unlike Judeo-Christian traditions that center around biblical authority, clergy and codified belief systems, Modern Paganism is all about the rituals, that often include drumming, dance, ceremonial fires, incense, and representations of the four elements earth, air, fire, and water.

 

 

Silent Prayer

 

Creator God, we stand in awe of the beauty of nature!

 

Music

 
Yggdrasill - Viking Pagan Folk Song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS3MU3aqXkI

 

Barry

 

English Lyrics for Yggdrasill

 

An ash I know it stands -

It is named Yggdrasill.

High tree, sprinkled,

with white mud.

There from come the dews,

That fall on the dale!

It stands always green, above -

The source of Urdhr.

 

There from come the maids,

Much knowing.

Three, their dwelling,

Stands under the tree.

Urdh is named one,

The other Verdhandi,

They notched wood –

Skuld is the third.

They set up the laws,

They decided on the lives,

Of the children of time (the children of man)

They promulgate faith.

 

 

Thursday, September 23, 2021

The Amazing Story of Mary!


 

Author’s Note

 

“Piazzas, churches named for a teenager who gave life to the Christ. Sculptures, paintings, frescoes devoted to her holiness. But the only thing about her we remember, she was a virgin.”

-Joy McCullough

 

Reflections

 

Next to Jesus, Mary may be one of the most revered people in the history of Christianity. If you rely on the accounts of her in the New Testament, you may be hard pressed to know who she is. Paul in his epistles, only mentions her when he refers to Christ as having been born of a woman, but he doesn’t say anything else about her and does not talk about Jesus’ birth. When reading the Gospel accounts, you can sense some tension between Jesus and his family, some estrangement between Jesus and his family. In the gospel of Mark, little is said about Mary. In the gospel of John her name is never mentioned, she is mentioned only as the mother of Jesus. She is clearly described in the gospels of Matthew and Luke as Mary, who was betrothed to Joseph, was a virgin, and gave birth to Jesus in Bethlehem, although the accounts differ significantly in details about Jesus’ birth.

 

So how did Mary become the leader of the saints in the Catholic Church, and beloved by many who call themselves Christian? The serious gaps in the amazing story of Mary are filled by the apocryphal texts. As David Bakker tells us in his course entitled, The Apocryphal Jesus, these texts provide the reader with insights into “her purity and holiness, her access to divine knowledge, her ability to intercede with God on behalf of others, and the unusual circumstances of her death.”

 

In the middle of the second century CE, the Proto-Gospel of James was written. This apocryphal text deals with Mary, giving the reader more information about Mary’s life. This text tells the reader Mary’s birth was miraculous, because her father and mother, Joachim, a rabbinic priest, and Anna, were unable to have a child, but through prayer, God intervened and gave them Mary. From an early age Anna believed Mary was special and she dedicated Mary to God. The text goes on to say because Anna thought Mary should only walk on sacred ground, Mary grew up secluded in the Temple. While in the temple, Mary spent her time weaving, praying, and receiving food from an angel. At the age of twelve, Mary left the Temple, under the guardianship of Joseph, chosen by the family. Joseph was an elderly man, who had sons from a prior marriage, and agreed to marry her and not to have sex with her. The text goes on to strongly emphasize Mary’s virginity before and after the birth of Jesus. After Jesus’ birth, Joseph has Salome examine Mary, who confirms Mary remained a virgin. This account of Mary became and remains authoritative for the Catholic Church.

 

Other apocryphal literature from the second and third centuries CE, speak of a Mary. Historians generally believe the Mary spoke of in the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Mary is actually Mary Magdalene, but some scholars suggest this Mary could be Mary, the mother of Jesus.

 

These last days of Mary’s life have been detailed in stories, hymns, and sermons from late antiquity and the early Middle Ages. These sources differ in some details, but generally advocate that because of her status as the mother of Jesus, her body was not left in the ground to suffer decay and corruption. A delightful account of this can be found in the Six Books of Dormition where Christ, Michael, and the other angels take Mary’s soul and body out of the tomb, to paradise.

 

Some of these apocryphal texts also emphasize Mary’s special relationship with God. Because of this special relationship, she is given special knowledge of mysteries, allowing her to intercede with Jesus on behalf of other human beings.

 

The ascendancy of Mary to sainthood and worship is not without controversy. Jewish writings from the second and third centuries refer to Mary by her Jewish name, Miriam, and say that she's a hairdresser and that Jesus is the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier called Panthera. 

In the early fifth century CE, the bishop of Constantinople, Nestorius, denied Mary should be called the mother of God. His view was condemned at a major church council at Ephesus in 431. At that council meeting, Mary was declared the mother of God. Today many people, including some Protestants, object to the figure that Mary has become, a goddess-like figure, like the Pagan goddesses of Aphrodite or Artemis. In the 1950’s, Pope Pius XII, defined as official Catholic doctrine, the assumption of the Virgin’s body and soul into heavenly glory.

 

            So, just who was this person called Mary and who are those who belong to the Cult of Mary?

 

Silent Prayer

 

Creator God, thank you for the beauty of Your creation!

 

Music

 

Mary Did You Know? – Pentatonix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifCWN5pJGIE

 

Barry

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